In this episode, Sandy and Nora talk about all the ways in which Justin Trudeau and the federal Liberals have avoided the easiest way to help all Canadians and instead, chosen programs that are more bureaucratic, cumbersome and that will leave so many people behind.
Note: since this was recorded on Sunday, April 5, the Liberals have announced that they intend to expand the CERB, with more details coming later on.
I think at this time in Canadian history big changes could take place for many Canadians if the Canadian government under Justine Trudeau where to register CERB payments that where paid back in full and actually presenting an accurate public record of those who paid back CERB .
The Canadian Goverment should publicly detail the date of receipt by adding this information into credit bureaus for those that might have paid in full.
CERB was issued on a Trust basis it was open to every Canadian who believed he or she was entitled or in need ..Basically it was at first convoluted and ideologically driven but it was available for all Canadians. Some of the amounts that where extended where quite high at first close to $14,000 dollars it is for this reason Justine Trudeau should instruct his finance minister to immediately make public those that received regardless of how? Who paid .And this would be done by reporting the time it took to pay back once received?
I really think because the CERB checks where basically a verbal promissory note they should appear as paid back in full with the Credit Bureaus such as Equifax . I think they should report for a few different reasons and one intails the idea or premise of a China and their social credit system. It would be a good political move to add those that would like it to appear. As it is a reference to their good character!
It is difficult for many to apply the discipline that was needed to send it back …But many did and the amount borrowed should reflect as a line of credit that was paid in full? As it is my opinion those that paid who where in fact not billionaires but many of Canada’s hard hit during covid 19 lock downs deserve to be recognised for paying revenue Canada back and it should reflect the real credit worthyness by showing to all creditors in a Equifax consumer discloser .
Edward H C Graydon
February 9, 2021 at 9:41 am
To argue the meaning of what constitutes a sales job is semantics! As in my own personal observation how Justine Trudeau sold the original CERB relieve checks seemed deceitful with the intent to deceive those that might have been in need of financial assistance. The CERB program seemed to be created originally to gain the attention of those that needed it regardless of whether that person was working or not! Trudeau in my opinion knowingly oversold the program in a knowingly confusing way with that intent in mind. I think Trudeau lacked altruism when he implemented the program and cared little about those effected and or displaced by the lock downs.
When Loblaws originally agreed to pay danger pay to there employees who might come into contact with the corona virus only to end the program extremely early in the pandemic it seemed indicative of a public relations move at the time and not one out of concern for the working poor who found themselves laid off because of the actions of the Trudeau government.
It is now February 9 2021 and in hind sight and taking into account everything that has transpired I think Justine Trudeau should be ashamed by how he has handled those who have been affected .
He could have claimed his actions where pure and just if those that needed the money originally where given the funds without any stipulation other than they where effected disportionitly by the sole actions of the Trudeau government.
I think the virus was a exscuse to impose restrictions on Canadians that might other wise have been unavailable!
The actions from day one by the current Liberal government are abhorrent and pathetic to say the least.
The Canadian Revenue Agency announced Thursday that it will begin sending warnings in July that could lead to legal action against people with outstanding COVID-19 benefit overpayments who have been unresponsive or unco-operative so far, yet who have the means to pay.
“The CRA has a progressive collection model to ensure all reasonable efforts to recover COVID-19 benefit debts to avoid placing undue hardship on individuals. When COVID-19 benefit debts remain unpaid, the CRA follows a process of responsible enforcement,” the agency said in a statement.
Because all reasonable effort was actually given by the Government of Canada to those that collected CERB would it not be in the best interests to partner with the major credit bureaus ? Would the fear of exposer by way of making public or at least adding the derogatory information or at least the threat of adding late payments to the credit bureaus be the best option while also publicly in a retroactive manner adding those that paid in full.
Would Canadians who accepted the terms of the CERB program and who paid in full not want at this time in history to be seen as having paid in full? Discloser of who paid would help in the implementation of a social credit score.
Turn a negative into a positive and help those who paid in full be recognized by all lending financial institutions as to how they handle their personal finances under abnormal circumstances .
Make it happen for the well being of Canadians who participated in good faith while turning the Canadian economy around by making it easier for those that paid to obtain credit in an easier manner moving forward.
I really think it is time to take this issue seriously!
Edward HC Graydon
Mr Mark Carney !
In todays paper it stated you have decided to join the liberal party of Canada’s economic development team.
If I might suggest you consider the idea of working closely with the major two credit bureaus in Canada to help stimulate the Canadian economy by way of individual Canadians who paid back CERB monies in full.
Please find attached my basic synopsis and general idea in principal that was previously posted to Gates Notes.
Since 1945, Canada and the World Bank Group have worked together with other member governments to finance projects, design policies, and deliver programs with the goal of ending poverty and creating a world based on the principles of sustainable development.
To the World bank!
Today I called your offices in New York and my conversation was recorded , I write to you out of reaction to issues surronding CERB and the issuance of it! Too many including myself the original idea of CERB in response to lockdowns seemed not totally without merit, Had the lockdowns taken place without the promise of financial reimbursement it might have appeared less contrived . But it happened and the steps taken have become a reality and history will judge the responses.
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It is out of the stated goal of the World bank that I write this ! But it is my opinion a total lack of insight on how to better society when it has come to the response of the
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Edward HC Graydon
53 days ago
Canadian government and CERB ! Regardless of how one received the funds the fact that many have returned it would indicate a moral compass that should be celebrated as a positive human character trait.
It is my opinion a lack of political insight when the opportunity to work and improve the reputations of those Canadians that paid in full is not recognized.
Personally I believe the world bank should reach out and support the idea of helping implement a response to those that paid back CERB . Those that paid should be recognized for their actions as financially prudent. It would assist in boosting the economy by improving the credit scores of those that paid. Who would not want to have this attached to their credit report ? It is the ultimate understanding of what constitutes good public behaviour and these actions might be the banking industries best barometer of credit worthiness while helping the World Bank achieve lifting those North Americans effected by poverty out, by improving thier financial reputation.
It is the answer for those that contemplate the introduction of a social credit score while helping Canadian society as a whole. It might be the Trojan horse the World bank has been looking for.
Why not turn a negative into a positive?
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Edward HC Graydon
12 days ago
In the United States PPP loans that have not been paid back are being collected by the American government and web sites have been created showing the businesses that have not yet paid back or PPP loans that where acquired on false pretence or by fraudulent means this is similar to the Canadian CERB program . My response to The World Bank deals with those that paid in full with little or no issues? Would it not be in the best interests of both American and Canadian governments to make public those that paid in full ,is this particular aspect of PPP and CERB loans more of an issue that should be focused on moving forward.
Would publishing the results of those that paid be the answer in helping resolve the issues of poverty ? Does showing the positive side of human nature provide a better understanding of the American and Canadian financial astuteness when it comes to financial literacy.
Would it be in The World Banks interest taking into account the World Banks stated goal in reducing poverty around the world regardless of country to promote those that paid in full ?
Would it be a more responsible approach to promote the positive rather than the negative !
As one seems more conducive to promoting the positives of human nature and this seems at least to myself a better way to gain control of the economy while helping actually simulating it from the ground floor up.
Poverty can be eradicated if the will to help show both sides exists .
This will help stimulate the economy by improving the credit ratings of those that paid in full and within the terms set out by the Governments of both the United States and Canada
I write a lot online and I write from the hip and I don’t always care about spelling as I don’t make that many but profess my mental inability at Times to spell Justin in my head it is always with an E as in Justine. And once I write regardless of mistakes I keep the original intact, spelling errors or not as not to change my input as often I share the comment on other sites and accept the mistake while hoping the reader understands the basic understanding of how I think .
More now than at any time in human history the ability to communicate with otheres around the world is a fantastic technology, what a fantastic time in human history to be alive if your personality is conducive to fearlessness of writing your opinion online. Of course I contemplate about how my thinking might be questioned for allowing such an error as to spell the Prime Minister of Canada”s first name wrong but then I remember the outrageous spelling errors in so many major papers online and those that are scared to express an opinion and then carry on .
I have an ego that won’t let spelling errors get in my way !
Attention Sandy Hudson !
Please forgive my continuation regarding Justin Trudeau ! But Justin Trudeau is a major Canadian player,I am just a Canadian !
So ,I must be careful on how I approach this ! Please ! Last night I saw an employee of Rebel Media approach Justin Trudeau at the beach in Tofino BC.
I have never seen him in that light and how he reacts to questions regardless of media size. He has really aged fast and rightfully so ,I mean look at the position he is in ! He does not look good for his age. He is not in tuned with the betterment of society but that is who he is ?
The problem I have as a Canadian at this time in Canadian politics with Justin Trudeau is he really makes me question physical reality ?
Justin Trudeau has stated he is staying in politics to protect us from Donald Trump and he has no intention of stepping aside .I can’t stand that he is trying to argue this. Justin Trudeau and his policies have caused Canadians regardless of race to witness the moral collapse of Canada . It is terrible ! It is really heart breaking to see the damage this man has perpetrated with what seems contemplated intent to cause real angst and sorrow! Yearning in futility for what Canada was before he took office is more than likely a position many canadians find themselves in .
Trump did not promote the numbing of Canadians by way of basically promoteing drug use ! He did.
Who gives a fuck about Trump either way! Justin ! To argue we need to be saved from Trump by you ,is so fucking pathetic
Have you ever seen the lost highway tail gating scene? Where Robert loggia says at the end of the scene “there are some things I just cannot accept”.
Staying on for this reason is so ?
This ! This I don’t accept !
It really is indicative of someone who’s ego supercedes the well being of Canadian society as a whole when someone stays so clutched to the need for power in such a public display of narcissism . It seems so outlandish.
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