The Green Party, what is it good for? Sandy and Nora ask this question in earnest and conclude that it might be time for Canada’s partisan left to get serious about fighting for what they say they believe in.

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One comment on “Episode 69 – It’s time to talk about the Greens

  1. Azim says:

    A rant on current climate policy conversations, and to a lesser extent this podcast:

    Some of the ideas being discussed here are not AT ALL scientifically sound, such as the criticism against the Greens for being willing to continue to use oil. The vast majority of leading peer-reviewed scientists overwhelmingly state natural resources are far from being viably replaced as an energy source by any other technology. There is no region in the world where renewable energy already exists as a 24/7 power source in landlocked areas. The German Energiewende policies attempted this and failed due to the limitations of current large-scale battery technology. Further, we have no way to create primary plastics without using natural resources (cracking heavy crude). With global demand for new plastics on the rise as a base resource, and knowing there are certain manufacturing processes which can not be achieved with renewed/recycled plastics. These new plastics are needed for medical products and many health technology products. Oil just is not going anywhere – even if we ban it outright all other nations will continue to produce it and use it.

    We could totally transform Canada, but the major polluters in the world will not cease to pollute. They have made it extremely clear they do not give an iota of a fuck. And, in truth, Canadians could all disappear today and global warming wouldn’t decelerate in a statistically meaningful way. If you genuinely believe that the world is going to be destroyed in 18 months do you advocate for waging violent war with major polluters (i.e. Russia, China, USA)? (I don’t, I hope you don’t too.) If not, I would suggest discussing remediation, mitigation, and adaptation based solutions. I.E. Focus on removing pollutants from the atmosphere and investing in that technology. If we want to take this concept to it’s furthest extreme Canada ought to force the most strenuous possible regulations on our resource industry and subsidize it to make it economically viable. All parties will hate this approach but it’s realpolitik. If we do this, we can displace current resource markets, set the new global standard, and force other global markets to adopt cleaner technologies to compete. It’s America’s aviation industry strategy used to generate the cleanest possible fossil fuels. We cannot pretend that yet-to-exist renewable technology of the future can solve this problem. It’s just not viable and we can’t keep lying to the general public about this. Batteries just can’t hold enough power (yet) to make solar and wind viable, and hydro isn’t viable everywhere in the world.

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